WEBVTT 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:12.440 [Joan Jonas: Drawings] 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:30.700 [SOUND OF DOG TOY SQUEAKING] 00:00:51.220 --> 00:00:54.180 I don't think that you could ever really 00:00:54.180 --> 00:00:56.710 capture what it's like for an artist to be alone 00:00:56.710 --> 00:00:58.600 working on their work in the studio; 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:01.100 I don't think that's possible. 00:01:02.680 --> 00:01:06.380 It's always a set up, you know? 00:01:12.720 --> 00:01:15.420 I mean, I got dressed in a certain way, 00:01:15.429 --> 00:01:18.119 and I wanted it to look nice. 00:01:18.119 --> 00:01:19.319 I cleared up the mess. 00:01:19.320 --> 00:01:20.360 You know... 00:01:21.520 --> 00:01:25.040 It's just a very different situation. 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.859 I'm not interested in having my private moments truthfully represented-- 00:01:31.859 --> 00:01:34.719 at all, because I don't think it's possible. 00:01:53.740 --> 00:01:55.540 I do this kind of work a lot-- 00:01:56.440 --> 00:01:58.580 in this case, experimenting with how these drawings 00:01:58.590 --> 00:02:01.229 are just going to come out if I do them very fast, 00:02:01.229 --> 00:02:05.310 with this particular tool and this ink. 00:02:06.240 --> 00:02:10.419 So, it's almost accidental if they turn out or not. 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.220 ["Reanimation" (2012)] 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.780 When I perform for the audience, I'm in another mode-- 00:02:19.780 --> 00:02:21.660 another world. 00:02:28.180 --> 00:02:30.320 There's two categories of drawings: 00:02:30.329 --> 00:02:31.510 drawings I do in performances, 00:02:31.510 --> 00:02:35.769 and drawings I do just in my studio. 00:02:36.820 --> 00:02:40.140 Drawing is like practicing the piano; 00:02:40.150 --> 00:02:42.939 because the first ones that I do often don't come out, 00:02:42.939 --> 00:02:45.279 so I have to practice and do it over and over again 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.000 until I get what I like. 00:02:52.909 --> 00:02:55.519 So I have an owl that I got in Nova Scotia. 00:02:55.519 --> 00:02:57.769 And so I started drawing this owl. 00:02:58.100 --> 00:03:01.780 I'm interested in the mask-like quality of an owl's face. 00:03:01.780 --> 00:03:03.370 But, it's not in my work; 00:03:03.370 --> 00:03:06.230 it's just part of my drawing archive. 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.731 ["Celestial Excursions" (2003)] 00:03:13.340 --> 00:03:15.629 Robert Ashley asked me to choreograph 00:03:15.629 --> 00:03:22.189 a movement and visual element for his opera, "Celestial Excursions". 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:27.272 [Robert Ashley, Composer] 00:03:32.320 --> 00:03:33.660 So one of the things I did 00:03:33.660 --> 00:03:35.380 was make a lot of drawings like this, 00:03:35.390 --> 00:03:36.840 very fast. 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.460 And they're kind of approaching a cartoon-like method. 00:03:41.940 --> 00:03:45.920 ["In the Shadow a Shadow" (1999)] 00:03:45.930 --> 00:03:49.739 I did, for many years, make drawings of my dog, Xena. 00:03:49.739 --> 00:03:51.700 I drew her a lot because she interested me; 00:03:51.700 --> 00:03:53.909 she was very strange looking. 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.060 I haven't started drawing Ozu yet. 00:03:59.329 --> 00:04:02.669 Poodles are difficult to draw because they all look alike. 00:04:03.709 --> 00:04:06.510 I began to draw my dog with the "Organic Honey" piece. 00:04:06.510 --> 00:04:07.849 ["Organic Honey's Vertical Role" (1973)] 00:04:07.849 --> 00:04:10.200 I was telling stories referring to myth, 00:04:11.640 --> 00:04:12.360 ["Melancholia" (2005)] 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.400 and for me, the dog is in the same way 00:04:14.409 --> 00:04:20.040 that a horse is involved with a myth as being a helper-- 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:20.858 or a cat. 00:04:20.858 --> 00:04:24.670 So for me, the dog is the animal helper. 00:04:24.670 --> 00:04:26.850 So that was the way I justified having the dog. 00:04:26.850 --> 00:04:30.270 But then I just simply because interested in 00:04:30.270 --> 00:04:32.610 drawing this image over and over again, 00:04:32.610 --> 00:04:34.640 and making portraits. 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:37.780 If you make a portrait of somebody, 00:04:37.780 --> 00:04:40.190 you have something about their character, of course. 00:04:40.190 --> 00:04:44.390 So, I'm interested in getting that quality into the other drawings, 00:04:44.390 --> 00:04:48.730 otherwise I don't think they're very interesting.