1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique] 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Moderator) Hi everybody and welcome to this next presentation entitled 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique". 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'd like to welcome Sarah Haider, who is one of the co-founders 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the Ex Muslims of North America group. 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, please join me in welcoming Sarah. 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Sarah Haider) Hi, everyone. 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm Sarah, and for the last two years, I have worked for an organization about 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 non theist ex-Muslims, those who once identified themselves with Islam, 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and now call themselves Atheists, Agnostics or Deists. 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the organization is called Ex-Muslims of North America. 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are a relatively new organization but we are growing quickly 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we now have communities of ex-Muslims in over 15 cities. 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As you can imagine, it is notoriously difficult for ex-Muslims 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to find others like ourselves, trying to build friendships among people 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who are often under siege and deep in the closet is incredibly difficult. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In the first place, how do you even find people who are often deliberately 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 doing their best to stay under cover? 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As an organization, we work to provide ex-Muslims with much needed support, 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 support to free themselves from the shackles of religion 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and to be themselves; to learn about each other's suffering 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and, above all else, endure. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are in a peculiar situation, my colleagues and I, 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we are intimately connected with more godless ex-Muslims 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 than likely anyone else in the world. 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I have heard thousands of stories from hundreds of people 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about their experiences with Islam. 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Some luck few were able to leave the faith with little consequence. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Their relationships with their families and friends and communities 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 remained intact. 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But for most, this was not the case. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our journeys have seen tremendous struggles. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For some, the cost was only social: loss of friends and families. 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For others, they risk their health and mental well-being 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from being locked into psychiatric wards to enduring physical violence 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from all family members. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Ex-Muslims, arguably more than any other group, 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are deeply familiar with the problems entrenched within Muslim communities 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and inherent within Islamic scriptures. 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As most of us happen to be both people of color 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and first- or second-generation immigrants, we are doubly affected 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 both by hatred and violence from Muslims, but also bigotry and xenophobia 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from the broader American public. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Despite all this, my experience over the last two years 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 has made me wary of speaking up, even to an audience such as this. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I always expected feeling unwelcome from Muslim audiences, 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I didn't anticipate an equal amount of hostility 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from my allies on the Left. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For example, when I first published a piece, Fact-checking Reza Haslan, 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who is a prominent Muslim scholar, 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on his dismissal of female genital mutilation 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as only an African problem, not a Muslim one, 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I got many responses from people unhappy with what I wrote, 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 almost all of whom questioned my motives, rather than addressing my claims. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To my surprise, most of my critics were not Muslims. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Rather, they identified as Liberals, and even sometimes as Atheists. 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Some darkly alluded to my agenda and others claimed that, as a former Muslim, 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there was no way I could be trusted with "fair criticism". 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now remember: I published a fact check. 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It seems to me that it would be easy to verify my claims: 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fact-check the fact-check, so to speak. 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But instead, Muslims and some people on the Left 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 preferred to throw all-round suspicions about my character and my intelligence. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Those who oppose Christian authoritarianism 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 will find that the broad majority of Liberals, religious or non-religious, 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 side with them and will offer their support 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the fight to push religious morals out of our politics and public life. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Even religious Liberals sometimes look upon 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the politically-charged religious right with distaste 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and some work with secularists to keep them out of our politics. 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The executive director of Americans United for Church and State, for instance, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is an ordained minister. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Atheists and Secularists can feel secure in the knowledge 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that their allies in the Liberal Left will stand with them 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when their target is the Far-right Christians. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It makes sense: Liberals don't share much -- many common values 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with the religious Right. 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But when the same scrutiny is applied to Islam 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you find that, inexplicably, some people on the Left will start to align instead 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with the Islamic religious Right. 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The consistent exceptions have been the secular and Atheist communities. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When luminaries of disbelief movement, like Harris and Dawkins, speak about 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the horrors of Christianity and write books condemning it, they are cheered, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their works lionized, their presence sought at events and conferences. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But when they turn the same critical gaze towards the religion of my family, 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they are told to cease such offensive talk, 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to refrain from criticizing the same oppressive forces 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that they criticized in the past. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There is an instinct to pigeon-hole anyone who says something negative 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about Islam, to broadly label them in such a way that nearly guarantees 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that most on the Left will ignore what they have to say. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The first method, I found, of people dismissing my claims has been that 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 since I as a brown person, I can easily be painted as bigot, 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is that I must be pro-war or broadly support the Far-right agenda in some way. 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is not true. 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Sometimes, I'm called an Uncle Tom or a House Arab. 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